Your work has been worn by figures like FKA Twigs and Amelia Gray. Who, for you, embodies the Oriens archetype at its most precise right now? Not visibility, but alignment.
I feel incredibly lucky that there is a very reciprocal relationship with many of the figures who have worn my pieces. Artists like FKA Twigs, Eartheater, and Kelala have been the sounds guiding the late night hours in the studios before any of my work was public facing, and that is such a precious and affirming thing. I think the most precise embodiment is undoubtedly Twigs right now— I see her in this period of rapid evolution that still remains extremely grounded in the sounds and visuals she has always cultivated. I also love the quote that she loves “worldbuilders” in reference to musicians she admire, and I feel continuously drawn to the world she is creating, which is ever encompassing, evolving, and seductive. I saw her in concert in New York for the Body High Tour with a full stadium and felt this immense connectivity and emotional resonance to her story, and perhaps in a parasocial way this odd pride. This collection was actually optioned for the tour dressing and would’ve been such an incredible way to bring it together, but I loved the looks she wore and hope to have more opportunities to align our worlds in the future.
There is a clear sensuality in the silhouettes you build. What is the core Oriens form? And what is the next distortion of that form you feel compelled to explore?
I’ve always felt the feminine form is core to my inspirations and the most important foundation of my work– clothing is to embellish, push forward, and transform ideas upon this basis. I think previously I’ve been very focussed on linear ways to contour the form, but in this collection it’s been very exciting to push it into a more dimensional space, using darts, seaming and material to sculpt in subtle ways that are sensual but slightly more architectural. I’m not interested in majorly distorting the body, rather sculpting with considered precision and subtlety, and this is definitely a quality I want to bring forward in future explorations.
Phoenix pushes further into leather as both material and surface. Beyond technique, what does leather hold for you symbolically? Why does it keep returning?
I think leather has this undeniable, inherent sensual quality to it. I think my fascination with it actually started with leather goods and shoe explorations, and falling in love with it as a surface and material with organic possibilities to transform in such endless ways. Of course it has its associations with counterculture and kink, and there is the fact that it is ultimately skin, but I think beyond that it is such a sensorial and inviting material for both a viewer and a maker. I think of “PHOENIX” as an ode to the joy of making and the pleasures of the hand — being such a hands on designer, leather’s unique capability of carrying dichotomies, to become structure or supple tactility, to mold and form or drape, and even its embedded imperfections and variability, is an exciting thing to play with and against.