Interview with an artist who gives us a brutal and fascinating honesty about life. A gaze that captures gestures, movements, and the interaction of individuals with the world. What others overlook, Maxime highlights, elevating uniqueness and individuality to a higher level of beauty, capturing the fascination of reality.
Do you recall your first artwork and the emotions you felt afterward? What significance did that hold for you?
I have an issue with my memory, anything before I was 18 years old is pretty much blank. Pinpointing a first artwork would be very difficult. On the other hand, the emotions the medium gave me when I started photography in high school shaped my entire life after that. I was in an art section and we had access to a darkroom. For the next 7 years I’ll be spending way too much time locked in, developing my little photos, exclusively in black and white. I realised only later that I was more into the process, than the medium itself back then. One day just after moving to Berlin I was short on Ilfords and put a color film in my camera for the first time.
That’s when my work and vision really started to turn around. Color was such a challenge for me. My first rolls were horrible, yet I felt a sort of liberation. It was so much harder than black and white for me, I couldn’t be sloppy with my settings anymore, there were just so many more parameters and information to consider. None of what I was used to worked. I also started to give my films away to be developed by a photolab, allowing me more distance with the work. And being so far from my comfort zone, something clicked. When you can’t remember anything, what’s the point of seeing the world? That was most likely my initial thought. Photography corrected this and much more for me. Since then the hunger has never left, and has grown stronger over the years.
“I’m just fascinated by people, or more by how one lives their lives, how we interact with the world, how we transform it, for better or often, worse.”
In your career, you’ve also collaborated with the fashion industry, where sets are often meticulously planned. Could you elaborate on the contrasting creative processes between this genre of art and your customary works? Which do you find more invigorating?
I never made distinctions between these two genres. In a scene that I planned and set up, or in the street shooting candids, I’ll still place myself as an observer when I’m shooting. I enjoy both immensely and equally and have never separated them. Streets are challenging in an unpredictable way , which is so exciting. I only speak for myself, but it took me a long time and lots of training to sharpen both mind and body in order to become fast and precise enough. I’m less strict with it now, but I forced upon myself a one-shot policy for a very long time. If I missed a shot too bad, no second chance. I saved a lot of films that way too.
It also took me a moment to find my tools. I’ve never been big on following advice for this sort of thing because I feel that it’s directly related to your style and practice. So I tried using countless cameras. I was lucky to do that at a time when they were not trendy and dirt cheap. I’ve only ever traveled for photography, and I had to learn how to make this work. How do I move around, how much I’m willing to get lost, in potentially sticky situations, do I have a friend to point me here or there, how discreet and quick can I be, etc.. If I can come back with two or three good pictures it was all worth it. I’m just fascinated by people, or more by how one lives their lives, how we interact with the world, how we transform it, for better or often, worse. That’s what has kept me alive and the more I see, the more my hunger grows. There are so many places I want to go, or go back to. Dig deeper, meet more people. Working with the fashion industry is exciting in a different way. Creating my own stories, playing with absurdity, perception, and the ideas of beauty. Headbutting the “real world” sometimes. As for today I never shot in a studio. As much as I can I try to keep at least one layer of reality, so to speak -an anchor. I have boxes of little black notebooks where I draw (very badly) all my ideas beforehand. At least some pointers, solid scenes, always leaving space for something unexpected. You never know how the connection with the talents and the pieces is going to work out. These connections are probably what I love the most about fashion shoots, the human aspect of it. As well as the transformation of an idea into a photograph.
“Creating my own stories, playing with absurdity, perception, and the ideas of beauty.”
Your art frequently showcases consistent elements, such as strong characters brought to life through accessories like high heels and colors such as vivid red. Do these elements carry deeper symbolism, or do they primarily serve aesthetic purposes?
I make choices before a shoot, a base, but I take pictures in a very instinctive way and don’t think much about the colors or a deeper meaning behind things while shooting. This comes after I get my films developed. The selection process is just as important as the shooting part. That’s when I start to see things on a different level. What might have worked and what doesn’t, with a more objective view. I do like to leave a lot to interpretation. Even if I see my own symbolism in a particular work. I believe that it’s very personal and dependent on the viewer’s own story and sensitivity ? Regarding your reference to heels and colors, I’ve cultivated a sort of fascination for shoes since childhood pretty much. And I shot so many Louboutins that I sometimes wonder if that wouldn’t be part of the reason red started being so present in my color palette. Other motives come back a lot, broken objects and nature, desolated places, covers and masks, animals. They are all charged with symbolism. My work revolves a lot around the idea of death (not in a morbid way), of loneliness, of power play, of absurdity. And the myriad of subterfuges we create, use or engage into in order to forget about it. Often in a light way.
Considering your social, cultural, and familial background, do you perceive a discernible influence on your artistic style and aesthetic?
I don’t come from an artistic family or background. I grew up in a small French village (the ugly kind) without TV.
I learned from my own resources. From the literature chapters of my mom’s shelf, to a few photo books from my school’s library that shaped my vision of the medium forever, to directors whose movies left a mark on me. I went to art school and the doors of the dark room were open, but they didn’t really teach photography. When I passed my master’s, the jury told me that I should give up the medium and pursue writing instead (not in English, haha). I was an absolute loner until I entered high school and made my first friends then. Which left me with lots of time for physical activities and to try getting good at it (mostly riding bikes, climbing and circus). Although it’s not something I was aware of, maybe it’s muscle memory, but I’ve been told on so many shoots that I move a certain way at work. I do move a lot. And have an annoyingly hard time staying in place in my life in general. I moved to Berlin in 2007, lived there for 13 years, and this place influenced me. In the lifestyle and freedom we were allowed there. And the people that gravitated there of course. It was a city where I found it easier than most places I knew to just be yourself, honest, and nothing more. Nobody around me seemed to feel pressured to pretend either. That’s something I cherished and that fed my work in a way.
My ex-wife is a luxury lingerie designer (DSTM) and we collaborated for many years. We talked about designs and alterations a lot, she gave me creative freedom for the image of her brand when she started it. We shared studios and I had access to pieces to shoot anytime of the day or night. A lot of catsuits, leather, nylons, some latex. I realise that all I’ve always been interested in is people, their world, more or less fabricated. Feeling like a silent observer. I never belonged to any « club » nor followed any trends in any aspect of my life. Not by choice, it simply never appealed to me. I felt just as out of place, and at my place simultaneously, at a dog show, in a punk mosh pit or at a fashion party in a chateau. I look at it all exactly the same way and with the same level of interest: People looking and thinking mostly alike, gathering together to feel good about themselves and share something they have in common. And I don’t say this in a cynical way. I actually often envy them, the feeling of belonging somewhere, whether it’s fake or genuine. I never really felt that.
Your art epitomizes the raw essence of reality, embracing all its unconventional elements without filtration. What are your thoughts on the role of ‘uncomfortable’ and provocative creativity, and do you still observe taboos within this realm?
Thank you for these words regarding my approach toward reality, I’m glad that you see this in my work. I always had a hard time with the term provocative and don’t see things through this angle. The uncomfortable yes. Very much. Encouraging the viewer to maybe see something from a different perspective, sometimes just by pointing at it. To be touched maybe if i’m lucky. But the uncomfortable needs to be counterbalanced with something else, just like in life. As for taboos I would just say that some things are for good reasons, others are like cages that should be forced open. To provoke for the sake of provoking doesn’t make much sense nor is it very interesting, in my opinion. So that’s really not what I’m after. My work is very honest, for better or worse. It doesn’t necessarily help with my career, but it matters a lot to me. I wouldn’t see the point in doing it otherwise.
Are there any ongoing projects you’re currently engaged in or ideas you’re eager to pursue?
I really want to finish and find a suitable publisher for a new book i’ve been working on. Aside from this, I’ve been engaging more and more with video the past years. And travel always.
Deep Inside
Credits:
Artist: Maxime Ballesteros / @maximeballesteros
Interview: Annalisa Fabbrucci / @annalisa_fabbrucci
Editor: Maria Abramenko / @mariabramenko