What Remains Behind / Helmut Lang

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In this rare and extensive interview, Helmut Lang unpacks his latest exhibition, What remains behind, at the Schindler House curated by Neville Wakefield, where the intersection of materiality and architectural space becomes a vessel for historical dialogue and transformative processes. With incisive reflection, Lang explores the perpetual tension between permanence and flux, as his works resist fixed interpretations, evolving through exposure and time. Lang’s words reveal the tension between control and chaos, silence and presence, making this exhibition a living testament to the complexity of identity and memory.

Your exhibition ‘What remains behind’ at the Schindler House engages with materiality as both a vessel of history and a site of transformation. In this context, how do you see the relationship between architectural space and the liminal, ever-evolving forms of your sculptures? Does the Schindler House exhibition space influence the way these works are experienced?

The object and its integrity are the most important. Context and placement can be vital if you have to respond to a certain environment, or if the space around the object becomes part of it. On the other hand, I am also willing to let a space violate the sculptures and avoid the trap of beautifying the object. I want to think that a sculpture will eventually be placed in different contexts and will respond for better or worse each time.
What happened with the exhibition at the Schindler House is that two uncompromising and independent Austrian voices 100 years apart were placed into a conversation, which is resonating with a present audience. The artworks were not conceived for the house in particular but nearly 10 years before, except for four sculptures made in 2024. The reality of a strong dialogue is nevertheless one of those conditions one can only hope for, as it happened in the Schindler House and it is ultimately a multigenerational, multicultural audience who is contributing to that experience.

Your artistic practice has long been rooted in cycles of deconstruction, and reinvention. In what ways does this latest exhibition disrupt or expand upon these recurring themes?

“When we think about historical time, the tendency is to think about it as static versus lived time as dynamic. Lang’s sculptures often start in the studio but continue to evolve through exposure to the elements and the effects of oxidation. In this sense, they are never static.” – Neville Wakefield

Brutality and elegance coexist in your aesthetic, creating a tension that feels both deliberate and instinctive. How does this exhibition refine or challenge that equilibrium?

It applies to the current exhibition equally but with emotionally maximalist implications.

In the modern world, where identity is a concept often curated and commodified, your work seems to reject a fixed narrative of selfhood. Do you believe in a stable self, or do you think identity is something that must be continually dismantled and reassembled?

The accumulated past, consciously or unconsciously, forms the physical, emotional, and intellectual material of who one is today. That is the starting point for all we do going forward. Identity is earned throughout life—an accumulation of experiences, failures, and growth. So it is ever-evolving but always authentic. I am only interested in authentic selfhoods. Who ever thought the invented identity concepts were a good idea?

Silence, both literal and metaphorical, seems to play a key role in your aesthetic. Do you consider your work to be a form of quiet resistance to excess, or is it an invitation to listen more deeply?

Probably both. The final form or body of work is essentially the abstraction and distillation of opulent thoughts and possibilities handed over to the public.

Anonymity, fragmentation, and the dissolution of identity are recurring themes in your work. In an era where hyper-visibility dominates, is this exhibition meant to engage with notions of self-erasure and reconfiguration of the self in a new way?

Self-erasure or dissolution of one’s identity is never a good idea. The new is perceived from previous knowledge and one’s past and the selective use of dismissal or approval of both. I see most things in life evolutionarily.

What has been the artwork or exhibition that has played a fundamental role in your journey? The one that represented the materialization of a burden you carried within, or perhaps the tangible manifestation of an important turning point in your life?

It was rather lived time with artist friends that has played a fundamental role. And my life in Paris.

Can you describe how your relationship with Louise Bourgeois influenced your creative process, and how her presence, whether through direct collaboration, personal connection, or artistic inspiration, continues to shape the way you approach your work today?

Our relationship was effortless. We were both able to let our guards down in front of each other and feel safe and reassured—that is friendship at best without projected expectations. We did not really speak about both of our individual work processes. Artists do not talk about it, as it is not really explainable and should not be. LB once said we were both runaways, and she probably meant that in more ways than only geographically. We were both from Europe and somehow ended up in New York, needing another place to unfold and be more liberated through the distance of past traumas and narratives.

Joseph Beuys said, “Even silence can be an answer.” Do you see your sculptures as silent witnesses to absence, or do they speak in a language beyond words?

And Jean-Paul Sartre said “Every word has consequences. Every silence, too.”

This question belongs entirely to the audience to be answered.

“The character of these works is as elusive as their origins and meaning. The hope is that within the spatial dynamic of the exhibition, different aspects will be revealed and concealed.”
—Neville Wakefield

There’s a rawness in your work that seems to speak to the subconscious, rather than the rational mind. Do you ever think about how your pieces might affect viewers on a deeper psychological or emotional level?

Once the work is handed over to the public, it becomes many lives. This is what art should do at its best—more questions. Everyone is experiencing what one sees depending on their current potential and that is where the personal dialogue comes in. It is beneficial to leave the safety of former experiences behind, which leads to endless layers of opportunities.

Analyzing the aesthetics of this latest work, how did its most visceral emotional core and the raw naturality of its elements merge and reflect in your precise stylistic choices—forms, colors, shades, and textures?

These works have a chimeric quality, but it is the inner tension and agency that decide the final form, although I am not sure when the form comes in, and I prefer the form not to have a predetermined meaning. I am very much driven by instinct and formulate all only at the end of the process.

Memory and time in your work are not conceived as linear; they are rather fractured, reconstituted, and layered. Also, the materials that you use, whether burned, crushed, or repurposed, often may transmit an intrinsic sense of trauma. Do you view memory as something that accumulates, as if matter itself can somehow carry traces of the past? And if so, does your process act as a means to either capture or transform these ephemeral traces?

Memory is the accumulated past to be selectively recalled and used. It is captured, integrated, and transformed in the work.

In a world obsessed with categorization, your work remains elusive, neither fully figurative nor fully abstract, existing in a liminal space of becoming. Do you feel that this ambiguity is essential for a deeper, more nuanced understanding of an artwork’s message?

The best I can do and my work can do is to give the viewer the possibility to think about them with their own feelings.

“The power of one’s work lies precisely in its plurality and refusal to be reduced to single meanings, references, or interpretations.”
—Neville Wakefield

If this body of work were to function as a psychological landscape, what emotions or mental states would it evoke?

That is for the audience to determine themselves.

“Just as many of the physical barriers between inside and outside were broken down [in the Schindler House], so too were the psychological barriers that separate our internal and external conditions. It’s an idea that is echoed in the sculptures. Like the house itself, they exist as both physical forms and psychographic statements. The sculptures are the enigmatic manifestation of interior conditions and like the architecture itself, they exist in a liminal space that is a threshold between past and present, inside and outside, what is concealed and what is revealed.”
—Neville Wakefield

In much of your work, there seems to be a sense of control over the unpredictable. Does your process ever allow for chaos, or do you find that chaos must always be tamed?

It is a relationship that is inevitably turbulent between the two while the creative process takes place, either physically or mentally. What happens during the work process, intellectually and form-wise, is that I approach a piece with an imaginary idea which I have not experienced and therefore remains innocent, waiting to be explored. This emotion results in a flow of works or procedures that can be interrupted at any point. These are condensed, layered, broken up, and again collected and suddenly taken over by another. At any given moment, loss of control takes effect. If the sculpture is strong enough to fight back, that is often a good moment to stop.

Once the work is handed over to the public, it becomes many lives. This is what art should do at its best—more questions. —Helmut Lang

What Remains Behind / Helmut Lang

Credits:

Artist: Helmut Lang / @h_lang_
Curator: Neville Wakefield / @nevillewakefield
Venue: Schindler House / @makcenter
Photography: Courtesy of the artist and MAK Center for Art and Architecture.
Interview: Anca Macavei, Annalisa Fabbrucci / @ancamacavei @annalisa_fabbrucci
Editor: Maria Abramenko / @mariabramenko

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