Ahead of Upclose / MARRØN

A conversation with DJ and Eerste communie co-founder & resident from the Netherlands.

Your stage name, MARRØN, holds a powerful fragment of your identity: a reference to the Maroons of Suriname, descendants of escaped slaves who still live according to the values of their African roots. Have you ever had the chance to truly encounter the Maroon community, even if just for a moment, to experience their daily life? What has been your personal relationship with this country? And what role did your family — your parents, their stories, their experiences — play in helping you feel both the weight and the beauty of that heritage?

The Maroons of Surinam are heroes to me. I thank them for the fight they have brought which contributed to the free life I am able to live as a black man today. They have inspired me with their cultural tradition that are the closest thing we have from our history leading back to Africa which most of us have to dig deep for to find back where we come from (which we will never find out completely). The fast rhythms of the created with the Apintie drum, the dances, the strong African aligned tribe approach of life until this day is something i admire very much. My mother is surinamese (mostly creole, small percentage indigenous) and my father is (half dutch, half surinamese (mostly creole, small percentage chinese) which makes me a mixture of all. My time to go to Surinam with my great uncles and grandpa and they will take me to the ‘binnenland’ which is the primeval forest in Surinam to take me to this part of history in flesh and blood. It is no secret the maroons are having a tough time in Surinam and that their struggle is still present until this day. I have been actively studying the history over the years and also found ways to help the community by donating for projects such as funding for school boats so children can go to several schools in the city. With my stage name as MARRØN I chose to tell their history story through my podcast series where each mix is telling a piece of history and showing the world the beauty of their strength.

In your NDYUKA #15 podcast titled Tranga Uma, you dedicated the mix to women,  especially your Black sisters, celebrating their strength and resilience. As you highlight,  the power of women manifests in many forms, and this time you chose a more  emotional and introspective approach, far from typical dancefloor energy. In light of the  recent UK Supreme Court ruling excluding trans women from the Equal Opportunities  Act, what is your vision on inclusivity and the recognition of female power in all its forms?  Do you believe music and culture can help redefine and expand the understanding of  what it means to be a woman today?

My belief is that it’s important to speak up for inequality. To stand with our women whether cis or trans we as men need to show and speak up for equality if that’s what we want. The problem of today’s world is that everyone claims to be on the good side of history but is not willing to try to make a change by making themselves heard.

The Ø in MARRØN is much more than a graphic sign: it’s a declaration of autonomy, almost a way to rewrite your destiny outside of imposed narratives. It becomes a symbol of rupture, of emancipation, but also of continuity with a legacy you don’t want to forget. But if we look back, where did this gesture truly come from? How has all of this — your family history, your parents’ stories, your connection to this culture of resistance and spirituality — shaped your identity?

I have chosen to not represent the MARRON as it is truly written because i had to make this my own. A black techno artist who tries to tell a story inspired by the great maroons for their visible shown power and culture but i can’t and do not want to claim the full name as i did not go through what they went through personally. I am saying this in a way where it could almost be cultural inappropriate if i did but ofcourse that is not the case. For me it was just important to make this my own story where I present music in my own way INSPIRED by the strength on consistency of the people and where I can also educate myself and others about their true history in all positive ways.

In 2016, together with four other people, you founded Eerste Communie, a series of events that began in Amsterdam and quickly expanded to cities like London, Munich, Berlin, Tbilisi, and New York. Who are the other people involved in the project and what roles do they play today? In what ways has each of you contributed to shaping this vision?

Eerste Communie as of now exist out of Gils Weerwind, Diederick Hoogerwaard and myself. Isabelle Ho-Kang-You has decided to pursue her dreams into other projects she’s working on but she has been an absolute big factor of our team and still is. Gils and myself are basically running everything and Diederick is keeping us sharp and grounded as a silent partner. We discuss alot together and make decisions together as a team. Which sometimes leads to long discussions but always end up what is best for Eerste Communie. As we all have our tasks we find it important to trust each other in our decision making but also have every stand behind the moves that we make.

You’ve given a deep meaning to the name Eerste Communie, linking it to the Catholic First Communion while reinterpreting it in a personal way — as the first encounter of a community gathered around a distinct sound. In a context where most major events focus on Fridays and Saturdays, what’s your view on the lack of Sunday events? And how does your project bring new meaning to a day often overlooked by the music scene?

It started with an idea of creating something on Sunday which would feel holy for people. Something they could go to and have a feeling that when they leave their heart would feel full of happiness and good energy. Music that would present a sound of joy, togetherness and inclusiveness of likeminded people. Over the years the Sunday in Amsterdam has became the most famous day to party. I think we definitely contributed in that alongside some other events like Orphic. I think with our project we’ve created a trust value where people know that when they come for EC they know one thing, they will dance their asses off.

One distinctive element of your event is the decision to keep the line-up secret, not announcing artists in advance. This shifts the focus to the music quality itself rather than big names. This philosophy recalls the concept of Fold (which I absolutely love!), the infamous London club known for its focus on quality and musical authenticity. How do you manage the creation of the timetable and the artist selection, ensuring each set flows harmoniously with the next, highlighting both established names and emerging talents? How has this approach helped you build a loyal audience, and how do you envision the future of an event that rejects headliners in favor of a more authentic and dynamic musical proposal?

It is very hard to get to the point where the crowd fully trust you with the selection. It took us years to gain that trust but now that we’re here, it’s even 10 times harder to keep that trust and to stay refreshing but consistent at the same time. We always have had the belief that good music is what drives this concept. A soundsytem that compliments our sound and a timetable that flows throughout the day like it was one big track where people are lost of who played when. It was just Eerste Communie this is all they need to remember for the day. This all is built with staying true to our own beliefs and being consistent with it. Not focussing on what works and what the hype is for the moment but always look and feel what your own needs are looking from a dance floor perspective. being on the dance floor has made us who we are today and shaped me personally as an artist and Gils now as promoter/artist agent.

Amsterdam is globally known for its tolerant image, especially regarding recreational weed use. At the same time, many clubs are forced to adopt zero-tolerance drug policies, often under pressure from authorities. What’s your take on this paradox? How do you perceive the relationship between substance use and the music scene, and in what direction do you think the approach — from institutions, venues, and artists alike — should evolve, perhaps focusing more on harm reduction rather than criminalization?

This is a very good question. With traveling and playing in so many different cities and different scenes you also see very diverse ways of usage overall. I am not a fan of criminalizing drugs but where to draw the line? I think what Amsterdam does well is that there many recourses websites that allows you to educate yourself about the drugs that you use or about to use, which allows especially our youth to look into that and not have a feeling they are doing something they will be doomed for automatically. Education about drug use is very important because this will most likely avoid harmful incidents. Apart from this I find it very important that people who use drugs or alcohol are aware of the people around them. When you pass out or you are way too drunk, you are negatively effecting the dance floor and you become irreliable for everyone around you. This something you should always try to avoid no matter what substance.

Being one of the first four Dutch players to compete in the Olympics is something no one can ever take away from you — even if that longed-for medal didn’t come. Have you ever experienced a disappointment in your music career comparable to that? Or has music offered you a different kind of redemption? Today, as a role model for many young people — first on the court, now in clubs — what do you truly miss about basketball, and what do you carry with you every time you step behind the decks?

I haven’t actually. The difference is between basketball and dj’ing is that I do everything alone now. My own vision and structure i can manage in to my music so I get to perform 100% of my work. With basketball that’s a different situation, working in a team you need to fit in the best way you can help the team win. With this team mentality I definitely gained a lot of good from basketball. Working within Eerste Communie as a team but also being happy for other artists to grow. I see our residents of EC’s growth equally important as that of mine. Seeing them shine makes me shine and to have this ease of mindset brings me major joy in what I do today. To inspire and be inspired by others but never shying away from my own musical beliefs because I trust what i do 100%.

It’s impossible not to mention your now iconic podcast series published on SoundCloud since 2019: NDYUKA. A name that carries a powerful legacy — a symbol of identity, memory, and resistance, but also of diaspora, rootedness, and Afro-descendant pride. Each episode is tied to a cultural element from your ancestors’ heritage, giving voice to an imagination that continues to deeply inspire you. Translating that mindset into your music — playing with groove and soul, but also strength and intensity — seems like a natural, almost necessary act. How was the NDYUKA series born?

The NDYŪKÅ series was born out of my own dance floor perspective. Everything I do musically now is out of thought what I was missing. Most of the podcasts I would hear online were sets played by great artists who wanted to show a bit of a different side of themselves (rightfully so). This is a very nice way to do so ofcourse but i personally always wanted to hear club music, a mix that made me feel like I was in the club when I close my eyes. A consistency of techno that allows me to get energized and driven pure by listening. This is how i came up with NDYŪKÅ podcast series. A serie where I would align my musical approach with a piece of history of my heritage. A different feel to every mix but still the energy you would expect from MARRØN.

With NDYUKA, you don’t just offer a listening experience — you guide the listener  through a genuine journey of discovery, where sound and knowledge intertwine deeply.  Episodes like OKANISI MOIWANA, SARAMAKA RHYTHM, KAWINA-LIBA MOENGO, or  GAAN-LO GAAMA, AWASA APINTIE go beyond music, conveying stories, values, and  symbols that evoke your ancestors’ culture. How meaningful is it for you to preserve and  transmit this memory through music? Do you believe music, in this context, can serve  as a powerful educational tool, awakening consciousness and bringing forgotten stories  back to light?

This is very important to me. I believe in storytelling, this can be done in diverse ways and is always subjective ofcourse. For me storytelling is making a mix sound like it’s one big story. A set where you get lost in the music but also feel driven by the energy it gives. A physical touch of music and that comes with the piece of history I get to tell about the culture of our ancestors.

I honestly believe it’s a coward behavior where people are focussed on ‘as long as I am good’ it makes me sick to my stomach to be very fair with you. At the same time i can focus on people not doing it and be grumpy about it or I can just speak up and do what I feel is right and hopefully inspire others to do the same. When people were screaming BLM, apart from the global support I find it important that also our black brothers and sisters are aware what that means. This means ALL BLACK people matter and not just cis men and cis women. With Tranga Uma (Strong Woman in Sranan Congo) I meant to show support by playing a deeper set to show compassion and feeling for our sisters and at the same time show a different side of myself with an opening mix approach.

You’ve expressed strong, clear positions on political and humanitarian issues, even at  the risk of facing consequences in your career. How important is it for you to stay true to  your ideals in an era when personal expression can come at a high cost? You’ve  referenced figures like Muhammad Ali, who sacrificed his career for his principles — do  you think music can play an active role in these battles? And beyond public stances, do  you also engage directly in humanitarian projects or actions?

Techno always has been political. Many times in a form where it would create a space where all kinds of people come together and not think about their skin color, religion, (class). Now we’re living in a time where there are wars and genocides are being made. I am a father of an almost 4 year old daughter. To know and visibly seeing children being slaughtered every day for a couple years i could not do less than to speak up and raise my voice to show awareness for these horrific acts. When Russia invaded Ukraine after raising an significant amount of money through gofundme, my partner Isabelle Ho-Kang-You and our dear friend who unfortunately now has passed Brian Bodbijl drove all the way to the border of Ukraine to help save 3 queer Ukrainian guys and helped them build up their life in Amsterdam. I am not trying to shoulder pad ourselves but I do find it important to show where I stand as a human being before being an artist because this is who I am, wether I am playing music or daily life.

In an era where many DJs are also producers, your choice not to produce music sets you  apart. How do you experience this distinction within a scene that increasingly demands  dual skills? What drives you to maintain this separation between DJing and producing,  and do you think you might explore music production in the future, or do you prefer to  stay devoted to the pure art of mixing?

From the moment I started coming up, I felt the pressure from the industry. Everyone kind of said you need to do both to become big or become relevant and I never liked this because I see djing and producing as something that’s connected but two completely different skillsets. Passion is where the drives come from. If you have pure passion for something, the amount of work and heaviness it might bring you will never feel because you got love for what you do. My passion lays with dj’ing and never had that same feel for producing so I did not want to start producing just to become relevant as a dj. That just sounds and feels wrong to me. I will not say I will never produce but for now I’d like to push myself as a dj only.

Berghain had a huge impact on your growth as a DJ, teaching you the importance of  energy flow during a set. The closure of De School, a club seen by many as a beacon in  the scene, surely left a void. How did you feel when you heard it was closing? What do  these clubs represent to you, and how do you think the rise of K41 is shaping the scene,  much like Berghain once did? What does K41 have that might make it equally special,  something that other venues seem to lack today?

The berghain dance floor definitely shaped me in many ways as well as de school did. Not to forget Trouw also had a lot of impact on me, so I have seen some places that educated me from a dance floor perspective and later shaped me from a dj perspective. When I got the chance to play at K41 a year before the war, I was windblown of how beautifully built this club is. I feel like everything that could have been done better at Berghain, they did there. It’s insane!

Your B2B with Rene Wise at Upclose 2024 drew a lot of attention due to the  chemistry between you two — especially since he’s one of your most trusted friends.  What was the experience like playing together in that setting? What made that set so  special for you, and how did you complement each other musically? Also, what are you  expecting from the upcoming edition with Rodhad, another close friend and  collaborator? What kind of musical bond do you share with him, and how do you think  your performance will evolve in such a special context? (I’ll be there for that special  moment!)

It is not a secret I am not a fan of b2bs but I have done a few now with indeed my guy Rene Wise which is always nice. We feel like the brothers who kind of grew at the same pace although he was a few steps ahead of me. Andrew is definitely a part of my success. He made my name known by spreading love and connected with our residency quite fast. So I am always grateful for his support and mutual love. Our musical vision and understanding of how to build the story is the same, we have just different ways of pursuing it which makes it a smooth mix of styles. Playing with Rødhåd this upcoming unclose I am really looking forward to. We already did a small b2b at boiler room and that was a very smooth match. A dream come true to be honest as he is one of my idols. Mike is super easy going and he is a king with staying true to himself but at the same time knowing how to pull any type of crowd with him. I watched him closely over the years how he keeps his consistency and stay refreshing. Our set will be powerful, groovy, sexy and absolutely danceable.

Upclose stands out for its intimate, dancefloor-focused vibe — aiming to  create the perfect rave conditions while pushing the boundaries of techno and exploring  its most innovative sounds. What’s your take on the difference between this “spin-off”  and the more traditional Awakenings format? How would you define your vision based  on your experience? And how crucial do you think the concept of intimacy is in an event  that, despite attracting large crowds, maintains a tighter, more personal environment?

I absolutely love the Upclose initiative from Awakenings. For them to take the risk to organize something like this as big festival says alot and I praise them for doing this. Last year was a success. Musically all over it was more aligned than usual and you could tell it drew alot of people from the club scenes as well. With these type of settings, more intimate settings allow you to lock in more. Get lost in the moment and have story throughout the day of music. This is in my opinion the most beautiful thing in music.

You’ve spoken with great love and gratitude about your wife, who chose to set aside part  of her professional life so you could pursue your two passions. But how do your wife and  daughter really experience your life among clubs, travels, and electronic music? What  do they think about the techno world and your sets? Do you ever share moments related  to what you do — whether a trip, a listen, or even a night out together? And in your free  time, away from everything, what do you enjoy doing as a family?

They love it and I am ofcourse very focused on making sure they are coming nothing short, whether this is financial or presence. I spend a lot of time with them during the week and honestly I get to see my daughter more than father’s who work from 9-5. My daughter is almost 4 and my last 2 week use tour was the first time where she was actually aware of me being gone for so long. She called me crying a few times asking me to come home and it definitely broke my heart seeing her like that. One month later I had to go back to usa but was not going to have her feel this way again so soon, so I took my family with me. This was a lovely experience and made me extremely happy and obviously easier to be away from home. They love my line of work, my daughter Odjin could at a very young age already recognize me playing from videos and even when she hears music she mentions ‘papa, people dancing?’ So it is fun to say how aware she is about it. I have told her I will take her to Upclose in 2 years and when I finish my set I will take her on stage to receive the applause Luke Slater style:). My wife Chiara is coming along from time to time as she loves a dance herself and her favorite dj is actually Rødhåd so maybe she will join for a dance soon;).

What are your future plans? Is there anything you’re currently working on that you’d like  to share with us already?

I am busy with a documentary. One of my best friends Loïc Isliker is a pro free skier and movie maker and as soon I was making the transition from basketball to full time djing, he started filming me from time to time. This is something that has not been done before so it’s nice to tell this story, the struggles, the good times all of it together. Where at the point now where we need an investment to finish the documentary and push it through the right channels, so we’re busy connecting on these matters. Besides that i have a few more projects that I am working on but I can’t say too much about it yet haha.

Ahead of Upclose / A chat with MARRØN

Credits:

Artist: Marrøn / @marron.ec
Creative Direction & Photography: Martijn Kuyvenhoven / @martijnkuyvenhoven
Styling: Rika Nurrohmah / @myownprivateidk
1st AC: Gils Weerwind / @gilsweerwind
2nd AC: Emilie Fang / @sploofi
BTS & Production: Sharmeen Anjum / @sharmeenanjum
Interview: Gianmaria Garofalo / @gianmaria.garofalo
Editor: Anca Macavei /  @ancamacavei

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