Fractal Resistance / NLI

In conversation with the London-based DJ & producer.

Emerging from the London rave underground, NLI transforms intensity into reflection. Through the language of Fractal Techno, she merges mathematical precision with emotional chaos, tracing her own initiation through burnout, resilience and creation. Speaking on activism, gender and the illusion of freedom within electronic culture, she reveals how sound can still be an act of resistance and how deconstructing reality begins with integrity.

Across thirteen tracks, “Initiation” follows your path through the London rave scene: moments of chaos, support, and resistance. Which part of that story still feels most vivid to you now?

I remember that trusting myself and my vision was so important to me, I kept telling myself that ‘all of this is going to be worth it one day’ when I was facing quite challenging situations and launching projects where I was repeatedly told by pretty much everyone that what I was trying to do wasn’t possible. I think a lot of people tried to discourage me from a place of genuine concern, because they had either themselves failed or seen others fail. In all honesty, I’ve encountered pretty much everything I was warned about in the music industry at this level. Looking back at it now, I think it’s important for any artist to go through this ‘initiation phase’ because it’s extremely character-building and it teaches you everything you need to know to be able to achieve any goal you set for yourself in this industry.

You define your sound as “Fractal Techno”, inspired by mathematical fractals that mimic nature. What drew you to that idea?

I grew up in a very intellectual family; both my parents, one of my brothers and my grandfathers were all scientists. I took a lot of interest in their work and was the kind of child who had a lot of burning questions about the world but was crap at everything in school, which was frustrating because I really wanted to understand it on a deeper level. I started reading about mathematics and physical chemistry (which is what my parents studied) and came across fractal algorithms. I had been thinking about what it means to be human in the age of technology for quite some time at this point and began exploring this concept within my own work. Not only was this a way to understand the world around me through my music, but it also became a way for me to understand my parents’ passion through my own.

In “Burnout”, you question whether it’s the algorithm or the rhythm killing artists. How do you keep creating when the process itself can become exhausting?

To be completely honest, that is one of the most challenging aspects about this profession. While there’s never been a moment where I’ve felt that making music isn’t enjoyable, quite the opposite actually – when I make music or play on stage, the world feels entirely perfect and flawless, regardless of what else I’ve got going on that might be stressing me out otherwise. It’s more the exhaustion itself that is the problem, it can get to a point where your brain is going at 100mph for weeks on end and it doesn’t feel like a problem, but slowly you start dealing with things like ear fatigue, sleep deprivation and being unable to remember the last time you woke up without everything being urgent. It’s difficult for artists because no one hustles us harder than we hustle ourselves.

You built Adhesive for artists who refuse to conform. What kind of freedom do you want that space to protect?

Artistic integrity above all else! Our label vision has never been limited to just releasing music, it’s also about innovation, unity and being part of something bigger. Adhesive’s vision for techno will always be to question and challenge contemporary culture, power structures and social hierarchies within the music industry and make it possible for artists to showcase their own vision and talent in the exact way that they imagined. We think that Adhesive artists are some of the best minds in the game, which is why Adhesive will always do everything we can for them to support them in challenging, subverting and pushing the music industry forward.

You’re vocal about marginalisation, bullying, and inequality in music, especially within queer representation. How do activism and sound interact for you in practice?

I would say it’s important for any artist who wishes to make a positive impact with their music to be mindful of how they choose to express it and maintain a high level of integrity when doing so. Unfortunately, activism has become a global trend where a lot is being posted on social media, but very little action is being taken in real life. The rave community is no exception to this and it’s concerning to see how social media has created the illusion of the scene being a safe and supportive space, which is very far from reality. Voicing your support for certain causes is of course a good thing in itself, but when someone’s suffering is being used as a way to gain traction, popularity or followers it becomes a problem.

“Anthropomorphism” blends industrial weight with choral atmospheres to explore humanity’s relationship with AI and spirituality. What drew you to connect these two worlds?

There is currently an on-going debate surrounding the potential dangers of AI and what this means for the future of mankind. I read an article the other day about how people have now started to use AI to speak to God. While we are fully aware that these robotic ‘deities’ are just a piece of code and not actually real, we still rely on things like ChatGPT to get answers to whatever questions we might have in the same way humanity has turned to spirituality for thousands of years. I also think it’s interesting to see how we seem to think that Western society is becoming increasingly more ‘secular’; In some Western societies spirituality is regarded as backwards and unprogressive, yet it seems like we have just found a new God to pray to, who has all the answers to our questions and is easily accessible on a screen.

You’re launching the Deconstruct Reality Project this winter to empower young creatives. What does ‘deconstructing reality’ mean to you personally?

I touched upon this briefly with above on activism and its role in music and the rave community, which is currently capitalising on activism as a trend and causing further marginalisation within the scene as a result. Many on-going socio-political issues that concern the industry are incredibly complex in nature and are not as straightforward as they are presented on social media. Deconstructing reality means breaking down current issues into bite-sized pieces of information based on facts, while also encouraging a nuanced discussion that offers clarity. This also includes taking an approach to activism that favours finding a solution to problems instead of just regurgitating arguments that have already been made countless times. It is a more conscious, ethical and intellectual approach to activism, which is rooted in integrity, respect and a genuine desire to see positive change that benefits everyone.

Fractal Resistance / NLI

Credits:

Artist: NLI / @nli_music
Photo: Maya Mcdoug / @maya.mcdoug
Interview: Mariia Glagoleva / @glagolevva
Editor: Anca Macavei / @ancamacavei

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